Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "A Happy Plainview Parent":
You must be a happy plainview parent who is also an over compensated Plainview teacher. Lets look at it from another point when we compare teachers to the real world. Other than plainview teachers:
who works 830-330 ?
who only works 180 days a year?
who has a guarenteed job?
Who gets off all major holidays + spring break, winter break, christmas/ hannakah break?
who has a pensionplan that guarentees 2% a year for every year you work which equates to a plainview teacher retiring on a $78,000 pension after 39 years?
who gets a guarenteed 8% return on there 401k plan? answer teachers do. That is why they are over compensated on the backs of plainview residents who work 7-7 to pay their taxes. Teachers need to work out in the real corporate world to get a sense of reality. I am not angry just another happy plainview parent :}
Friday, November 20, 2009
This is Nothing to Do About Money...
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "A Happy Plainview Parent":
Are you happy that the union for your childrens' teachers decided to put your kids in the midst of this battle? Who gets the benefit of not hanging kids work in hallways? Teachers wearing black to school as a show of mourning? Buttons with frown faces and Plainview on it? Bright orange posters in teachers cars. Teachers not participating in events with the kids (Harlem Wizards Basketball. "Informational picketing" in the morning. This stuff makes you happy? My attitude is at this point it has NOTHING TO DO ABOUT MONEY. It has to do with the fact that the educational experience for my kids is degraded. It is part of the human psyche that if one will do these things where they work and fester an unhappy place to be....whether a teacher is all for this crap or being bullied into it by their Union, their quality of work will suffer. This is early on of this job action. If this continues for an extended period, the bitterness will really take root. I saw the display case in the lobby of Stratford Road...There is a display of some kids work...without the name of the class / teacher....Anybody want to guess why?
Are you happy that the union for your childrens' teachers decided to put your kids in the midst of this battle? Who gets the benefit of not hanging kids work in hallways? Teachers wearing black to school as a show of mourning? Buttons with frown faces and Plainview on it? Bright orange posters in teachers cars. Teachers not participating in events with the kids (Harlem Wizards Basketball. "Informational picketing" in the morning. This stuff makes you happy? My attitude is at this point it has NOTHING TO DO ABOUT MONEY. It has to do with the fact that the educational experience for my kids is degraded. It is part of the human psyche that if one will do these things where they work and fester an unhappy place to be....whether a teacher is all for this crap or being bullied into it by their Union, their quality of work will suffer. This is early on of this job action. If this continues for an extended period, the bitterness will really take root. I saw the display case in the lobby of Stratford Road...There is a display of some kids work...without the name of the class / teacher....Anybody want to guess why?
A Happy Plainview Parent
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "POBTeachers, this is what your employers are sayin...":
Dear fellow blog posters,
Every post on this blog is valid whether it comes from a deeply held personal belief or a factual statement. I do not intend to challenge anyone or any specific comment. However, I would like to come at this from the following perspective: the POB school district is an extra ordinary value.
Let me validate this statement:
a child goes to school 1,080 hours per year (180 days a year, six hours per day)
let's assume the property tax is $10,800 per year, some pay more, some pay less
the result is that you pay $10 per hour for one child's education in one of Nassau County's "better" school districts, not to mention the other benefits our taxes provide (ambulance, fire, police) costs aspect, and, obviously, if you have two kids, it's $5 per hour; and so-on and so-on
if you go out for the evening and require babysitting do you pay about $10 per hour?
If you don't think this is a fair comparison, what about:
if you send your kid to a day-camp in the area you are probably paying ~ $14 per hour per child ($4,000 / 8 weeks / 5 days / 7 hours), sleep-away is more
the cost per person per waking hour at a modest five-day Florida Disney vacation is probably ~ $13 ($4,000 / 4 people / 5 days / 16 hours)
In the end, I am not sure what has motivated some people to post certain topics on this blog, but my two children have received, are receiving, and will receive a solid education in this district.
Further, and in addition to the $10 per hour that I pay to educate two children, my wife and I also invest in more money in their education (workbook, private tutoring, participate in the athletic programs) and extend ourselves to assist their teachers in appropriate ways.
This is not an easy topic, but I do feel that this perspective needed to be said.
Sincerely,
A happy Plaiview parent
Dear fellow blog posters,
Every post on this blog is valid whether it comes from a deeply held personal belief or a factual statement. I do not intend to challenge anyone or any specific comment. However, I would like to come at this from the following perspective: the POB school district is an extra ordinary value.
Let me validate this statement:
a child goes to school 1,080 hours per year (180 days a year, six hours per day)
let's assume the property tax is $10,800 per year, some pay more, some pay less
the result is that you pay $10 per hour for one child's education in one of Nassau County's "better" school districts, not to mention the other benefits our taxes provide (ambulance, fire, police) costs aspect, and, obviously, if you have two kids, it's $5 per hour; and so-on and so-on
if you go out for the evening and require babysitting do you pay about $10 per hour?
If you don't think this is a fair comparison, what about:
if you send your kid to a day-camp in the area you are probably paying ~ $14 per hour per child ($4,000 / 8 weeks / 5 days / 7 hours), sleep-away is more
the cost per person per waking hour at a modest five-day Florida Disney vacation is probably ~ $13 ($4,000 / 4 people / 5 days / 16 hours)
In the end, I am not sure what has motivated some people to post certain topics on this blog, but my two children have received, are receiving, and will receive a solid education in this district.
Further, and in addition to the $10 per hour that I pay to educate two children, my wife and I also invest in more money in their education (workbook, private tutoring, participate in the athletic programs) and extend ourselves to assist their teachers in appropriate ways.
This is not an easy topic, but I do feel that this perspective needed to be said.
Sincerely,
A happy Plaiview parent
Contract Clarification
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Please Clarify":
The union is protected under the Taylor Law which grants the same benefits and obligations under the previous contract until the new contract is signed. Then all payments are retroactive.
The union is protected under the Taylor Law which grants the same benefits and obligations under the previous contract until the new contract is signed. Then all payments are retroactive.
Please Clarify
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Contract Clarification":
Thank you for the clarification. Now can someone answer what that means? Are the teachers in jeopardy of losing their jobs since there is no contract? Honestly that is not meant to be sarcastic. I am not a teacher but a parent who is concerned about the next steps that are going to be made on both sides. That of the union and that of the BOE. Also if there is no contract, what monitors the day to day in a classroom? I know these sound like simplistic questions, but lets start with the basics so parents have more clarification.
Thank you for the clarification. Now can someone answer what that means? Are the teachers in jeopardy of losing their jobs since there is no contract? Honestly that is not meant to be sarcastic. I am not a teacher but a parent who is concerned about the next steps that are going to be made on both sides. That of the union and that of the BOE. Also if there is no contract, what monitors the day to day in a classroom? I know these sound like simplistic questions, but lets start with the basics so parents have more clarification.
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