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There is a new posting on the PCT site from Jane Weinkrantz, where she tries to quell the notion that teachers are greedy in their raise requests.
She compares the average teachers salary to that of the super high salaries of households in Plainview and Old Bethpage.
There is an error in her comparison. According to realtors.com, citidata.com, and homefinders.com the average salary of the two locations does range from a high of 130,377 to an average low of 111,895, however, these are HOUSEHOLD salaries most often obtained by TWO people working, (which is necessary to pay our high taxes), and, that they are salaries based on working a full year, with usually only 2-3 weeks vacation, three to five legal holidays, and five sick days. Not 180 days.
Ms. Weinkrantz might consider a more equitable comparison to teach us about.
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I agree that the salary data is somewhat skewed but I think Weinkrantz is spot on with her description of the revolving door adminstrators: (excerpt from Those Greedy Teachers?)
ReplyDelete"Consider the following: a current senior is in year 13 of his or her public school career. In the past 13 years, the Plainview-Old Bethpage school district has had approximately 16 principals, 18 assistant principals, 17 chair people and supervisors, three superintendents, 16 assistant superintendents and about ten directors and assistants in pupil personnel services. Even a fourth grader would have studied under the leadership of two superintendents, seven assistant superintendents for curriculum, business and personnel, two principals, three assistant principals, five pupil personnel directors and assistants and multiple chairpeople and directors. I am not even sure that the term “leadership” is the best choice I could have made. To lead, you have to stay at the front, not leave at the first opportunity. Why is our district so eager to pay extremely generous salaries and benefits to people who will resign the minute they are offered an additional 20% by another district? The male characters on “Sex and the City” have fewer problems with commitment than the administrators we seem to hire. Programs and pedagogies are routinely selected and implemented by administrative staff who will not be around to see their positive (and negative) results. New policies are created and promptly forgotten or delayed. Consider the wellness initiative and the lag in implementing Read 180 as two prime examples. Our district invests in books, technology and training for curriculum whose advocates won’t be around to sign for delivery."
How do you know that these saleries are obtained by two people working? Also, aren't teachers subject to the same taxes as every one else? You say that teachers only work 180 days per year, and that every one else works a full year. those 180 days are week days, if you if you subtract two days a week or 8-10 days per month for weekends from the 365 day year as well as subtracting the 14 days that the average person gets for vacation then we are talking about only 225 days. not as much of a difference as you might think. And don't forget that there are many people in plainview who get more then two weeks off per year, so this even lessens the difference
ReplyDeleteEd's note: The statistics on those websites site an average per capita income of around 70k. If the household is earning 112k, that would imply two people are working.
ReplyDeleteAlso, while 180 is not 225 days a year working... That accounts for cutting more than two month's worth of work for the working year. I don't know anyone who gets paid for a years worth of work, but only works ten months of it.
225-180 = 45 days difference, divided by 5 (5 days in a work week) is about 9 weeks - that's a lot of time.
ReplyDelete"Greedy" is a superintendent who earns more than $400,000 in salary and perks while he's also pulling down a pension. Gee, I wish I had a $500/month car allowance like he does: but hey, I'm not greedy. BTW, what is that guy doing to help end the deadlock? Just what does he do, anyway?
ReplyDeleteGreedy? How about administrators at Central who voted themselves increases of 9 percent and more?!!! For doing what, exactly? The teachers are asking for less than half of that! Our superintendent is the 15th highest-paid on Long Island, which is saying a lot--and our teachers are the 42nd lowest-paid! What's up with that? No wonder we have a problem!
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